Comments on: William Sanders, Senior Bigot, Helix

By: Next of Kynn » Blog Archive » Author Asshattery: Luke Jackson, Los Angeles lawyer

Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:50:51 +0000

[...] indeed, when the controversy was breaking out, Jackson was posting to defend Sanders and justify the bigotry; his response to the controversy (since deleted) includes this line: “But at the same time, I [...]

By: Fantasy Magazine » Diversity In Speculative Fiction

Fantasy Magazine » Diversity In Speculative Fiction — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:01:29 +0000

[...] Whenever an internet discussion blows up over this issue (notably, the Eclipse 2 anthology and Helix Magazine debates just this past year), I see it frequently stated that quality is more important than [...]

By: Two Separate But Related Issues, Two Separate But Related Posts #1 at K. Tempest Bradford

Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:34:00 +0000

[...] response to some of the discussion in the magazines that want more diversity post and the whole William Sanders thing, author Ashok Banker wrote a post about racism, sexism, and cultural insesnitivity in SF/F. [...]

By: Salistala

Salistala — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:16:58 +0000

As an articulate, literate and sober First Nations reader, I want to Thank Saladin for this:

“Oh, wait…he was only hates the EXTREMIST ’sheet heads.’ Nice. Like only hating the drug-dealing niggers, or only hating the money-grubbing kikes. “I don’t mean ALL of them.” Of course you don’t. But tell you what — go fuck yourself anyway, just to be safe.”

Because the same people that are patting me on the head for knowing how to hold my knife and fork (and other equally important civilized behaviors) are viciously hating on the “drunken savages” that I’m related to and live amongst.

As for the surprise that this type of offensive bigotry exists in the idealistic world of SF, I say “why?”
If writers with an inclusive social awareness can write their view of what an ideal future looks like, so can the exclusionists.

I’ve read some pretty extreme survivalist SF before (Battlefield Earth, anyone?). Call me a Psychlo but it wasn’t worth the thousands of pages of reading (and dead trees consumed, “…the Horror, the Horror”). These experiences helped me develop a good idea of what and what not to look for when choosing authors and publishers.

I think the benefits to the letter being posted serve all those that want to live in an inclusive future by identifying some that don’t. I know now Helix is somewhere I’ll never go to find a vision of the future I hope to see.

Thanks to those that brought this to my attention

By: Helix Quarterly’s William Sanders, or How To Win At Being A Dick In Life

Helix Quarterly’s William Sanders, or How To Win At Being A Dick In Life — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:16:06 +0000

[...] started here, with a rejection letter posted by K. Tempest Bradford via Luke Jackson (who has since removed it, but as the internet goes, it’s forever) from [...]

By: rick

rick — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:35:03 +0000

Or, we can cheer at Google’s cache if we want to see the orginal..

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:3aPeKAPBqkgJ:ladislaw.livejournal.com/21325.html%3Fthread%3D61261+http://ladislaw.livejournal.com/+sanders&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

By: In Link Times « Torque Control

In Link Times « Torque Control — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:09:42 +0000

[...] try to summarize all that’s been said about William Sanders’ behaviour recently; start here, then see here, here, here, here, and here for discussion and further links. But I do want to [...]

By: Saladin

Saladin — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:51:02 +0000

Um…wow. I was blissfully unaware of this madness until someone mentioned it to me in person yesterday.

Ready as I usually am to rant and rave at the open hatred for my people that exists in this country, I’m just kinda floored.

Guess I know what my chances for ever publishing a story in Helix are…at least under my real ’sheet-headed’ name.

Oh, wait…he was only hates the EXTREMIST ’sheet heads.’ Nice. Like only hating the drug-dealing niggers, or only hating the money-grubbing kikes. “I don’t mean ALL of them.” Of course you don’t. But tell you what — go fuck yourself anyway, just to be safe.

By: Avalon's Willow

Avalon's Willow — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:41:26 +0000

Semi Random Observation: On the futility of pulling closed the barn doors once they cows have left.

Y’know what amuses me so, SO very much about the deletion? The deletion happens in a world of Firefox Scrapbook and other easy, one click page captures.

Deleting things does not suddenly make everyone who quoted the letter’s text in entirety suddenly liars who’re making shit up. It just means they have to pull out a megaupload link.

And I have given up on Luke, seeing as he’s pulled the ‘People who know me IRL say I’m OK’. Panic set in and the opportunity not to look badly alongside Mr. Sanders has flown.

By: Juan

Juan — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:42:39 +0000

*facepalm but not the least bit surprised at all the defensiveness*

For starters, I feel ashamed to even have met and conversed with the guy when he came to my univ.